I know I'm so late getting to this, but I really
want to talk about the Vice-Presidential debate, and specifically, the abortion
question that Martha Raddatz asked at the end.
First of all, it did kind of bother me that she
formed the question in terms of religion. She asked,
We have two Catholic candidates, first time, on a
stage such as this. And I would like to ask you both to tell me what role your
religion has played in your own personal views on abortion. And, please, this
is such an emotional issue for so many people in this country. Please talk
personally about this, if you could.
We live in a country that, officially, separates
church and state. We live in a country that is supposed to advocate
for religious freedom. We live in a country that is supposed to
keep God (any and all of them) out of our legal practices. But of course, we
don't actually live in that country. We live in a country in which a large
number (the majority?) of our political leaders constantly make laws based on
their religious (Christian) beliefs, regardless of how those laws may affect
others with different beliefs. So while I hate, hate, the way she asked
this question, I understand why she did it.
Now, their answers. Paul Ryan answered first. He
talked about his Catholic religion informing his belief that life begins at
conception, and he said, "I don't see how a person can separate their
public life from their private life or from their faith. Our faith informs us
in everything we do." This answer makes me so angry, mainly because there
are so many people who think he's absolutely right. It's a total disregard for
the separation of church and state. And I think this answer proves that in all
things, not just abortion, Ryan has no problem pushing a purely Christian (and
of course, that means whatever he deems to be Christian) agenda in
his work as a politician. He also managed to bring up how women wanting
contraceptive coverage, and Obama in supporting them, are infringing upon his,
and others', religious liberty:
Look at what they're doing through Obamacare with
respect to assaulting the religious liberties of this country. They're
infringing upon our first freedom, the freedom of religion, by infringing on
Catholic charities, Catholic churches, Catholic hospitals.
You know, because employers should have the right
to tell their employees which medications to take, and for what reasons.
Because that makes sense. (To Paul Ryan: the insurance company's pay for that,
not the Catholic institutions. The institutions, and you, need to get out of
women's personal lives.)
Joe Biden, on the other hand, also mentioned his
Catholic faith and how it affects his personal life (presumably, I'd say, he
would not want anyone in his family having an abortion), but went on to say,
But I refuse to impose it on equally devout
Christians and Muslims and Jews, and I just refuse to impose that on others,
unlike my friend here, the—the congressman. I—I do not believe that we have a
right to tell other people that—women they can’t control their body. It’s a
decision between them and their doctor. In my view and the Supreme Court, I’m
not going to interfere with that.
I have been trying to go back and find a full
transcript of both answers, which I haven't found yet, but I'm pretty sure that
Biden is the only one who even used the word "women". He acknowledges
that women have a right to make their own decisions, and that he has no right
to be involved. By mentioning women, he acknowledges that the abortion question
is one that he, as a man, should not really have a say in. (As my mom always
says, "As far as I'm concerned, if they aren't gonna ever be pregnant,
they just need to keep their mouths shut.")
He also acknowledges keeping his religion out of
his politics. Though I was disappointed with the religious framing of the
question, I was yelling "Yes!" at my computer screen when he
mentioned refusing to make laws based on religion.
I also loved when Martha Raddatz directly asked
Paul Ryan if those who do believe in legal abortion should be worried with a
Romney administration. He looked shocked, and then said, "We don't think that unelected judges should make this decision; that people through their elected representatives in reaching a consensus in society through the democratic process should make this determination." You know, like how all those people have voted and agreed to grant full human rights to fertilized eggs. Oh wait, those measures have ALL been voted down?
The truth is, we absolutely should be worried about reproductive rights with a Romney/Ryan victory. And we should also worry about an aggressively Christian agenda. We already know that Romney doesn't care much about 47% percent of the population. I'm guessing non-Christians make up a pretty large percentage of that group.
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